Wanted: Used dirt bikes (Oakland, California) (SOLVED: 2004 125cc Obtained)

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Wanted: Used dirt bikes (Oakland, California) (SOLVED: 2004 125cc Obtained)

Post by jsyzdek » Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:48 pm

I have two motorcycles now (sports bike and the Virago) and I'm looking into dirt bikes to do some off-roading. I want to get into it by spending as little as necessary. I know that you always get what you pay for, but I'm trying to save by going with a relatively small displacement bike, not by going with some no-name cheap-o, or by getting something that is totally trashed.

I'm currently looking into Kawasaki KLX, Honda CRF and Yamaha TTR, something in the 100-250cc range. I've been browsing craigslist and I'm surprised how much people ask for these bikes. I'm spoiled because I always get a steal. I got my first GS500F for $2200 and all it needed to run to its full potential was a flush of the tank because there was some water in there, making it run like crap. And the engine was barely broken in because the PO bought it from someone who stored it for 3 years in a dry condition (no oil) and didn't think to check the oil before starting it. So I got a $3500 (normal value given its age/mileage) bike for $2200. Then I got my SV650S for $3800, while most people were asking $4500-5000 for bikes in similar condition. It only had 6700 miles on. I got my Virago for $1400 and it only needed fresh fluids and tires, otherwise it's in great condition. And now I'm looking into dirt bikes and sometimes people ask 80% of the price of a new one, for something that is 15y old. Hardly any bike is listed for ~50% of the price of new, even at that age.
Am I missing something?

Also: as I shop around, anything I should really look into while I check these out? any signs of people trashing them that I should be aware of? I know I'm looking for a used bike so I don't really mind cosmetic damage: I bet I'll only add to it, but signs of abuse that should scream "Walk away!": I want to be able to recognize those. So many bikes on craigslist look like they should go straight to dump. But maybe it's just me?

Other reliable brands I should look at, that may come at a decent price? I'm looking for something light so that I can easily load it onto my lifted pickup truck, and something I can really practice on, without worrying too much about the damage, and about picking it up when I drop it (when, not if).
Anything I should consider? things like 2-stroke vs 4-stroke, carbureted vs. fuel-injected? any info will help.
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Re: Wanted: Used dirt bikes (Oakland, California) (SOLVED: 2004 125cc Obtained

Post by ViragoJoe » Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:11 pm

Jarek,

Bill Schu has restored 15 dirt bikes here in Michigan. He is super knowledgeable when it comes to dirt bikes.
Go to this link below. Then scroll to the top and work your way down and you will see some of the dirt bikes that Bill has restored.

In any of the posts made by Bill will have his screen name schu in blue. Click on it and it will take you to his profile where you can send him an email with questions that you may have regarding dirt bikes. So, in total Bill has 16 bikes.

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Re: Wanted: Used dirt bikes (Oakland, California) (SOLVED: 2004 125cc Obtained

Post by jsyzdek » Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:50 pm

Thx Joe. I just e-mailed him.
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Re: Wanted: Used dirt bikes (Oakland, California) (SOLVED: 2004 125cc Obtained

Post by Schu » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:15 pm

Not sure how much I can help you Jarek. The bikes you are trying to avoid are actually the bikes that I search for. I rescue really old worn out Yamaha's. However, out of the two you have narrowed down, and the type of riding you have planned, I would go with the 2004 TTR125. It will run forever with what you have planned. And the 4-stroke is a best choice for you. The TTR250 would be a better choice if you planned to mix street and trail riding, but the TTR models are not street legal bikes unless you make some changes to them. So for your purposes, you would have a blast with that light weight and nimble 125. Be aware that they have a high seat height with long travel suspension. You will have to swing your leg pretty high to mount either of those bikes, butt once your on the bike it will squat to a comfortable height. I can't help you on things to look for and be cautious of. You will know if it has been abused. It's usually obvious. Good luck, and have fun.

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Re: Wanted: Used dirt bikes (Oakland, California) (SOLVED: 2004 125cc Obtained

Post by jsyzdek » Sat May 01, 2021 5:33 pm

Thx Schu.

I went to check out both bikes today. First was the 250, and it's really tall. Once on, it felt OK, but I did have to stretch a bit to mount it. The thing is that it was being sold by a re-seller and I just wasn't that confident in its overall condition, although nothing really screamed "run".

Then I saw the 125cc, and as you may have guessed: I immediately fell in love with it. I can plant my foot on it and I can see myself trying it out on loose gravel, able to feel the ground any time I want. I bought it on the spot. The seller is moving across the country and getting rid of a lot of stuff and so I'm getting a helmet, some spare parts, and a ramp for the truck, all for $1200. I'd probably have to spend $300 for the ramp alone.

And on top of that I had a blast riding my sports bike along the coast for 160, very twisty miles. That said, my right hand was getting numb from the throttle. Virago is a lot more comfortable.
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Re: Wanted: Used dirt bikes (Oakland, California) (SOLVED: 2004 125cc Obtained

Post by Schu » Sat May 01, 2021 6:21 pm

Good deal!
It will most likely be the bike you'll have the most fun with. :lol:

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Re: Wanted: Used dirt bikes (Oakland, California) (SOLVED: 2004 125cc Obtained

Post by jsyzdek » Sun May 02, 2021 4:17 pm

It might be, although road trips on the Virago, with my wife serving as my backrest, are pretty sweet, too.

The bike is home. I'll proceed with acquiring the shop manual and will start replacing fluids and inspecting vital elements. It rides fine, but it will need a new rear tire, for sure. We'll see what else. Maybe stiffer springs. I'll probably first give it a try the way it is and take it from there.

If there are particular parts that need attention and are easily overlooked, please share.

UPDATE:
I realized that both tires are original to the bike (2004 vintage). The front has almost no sign of wear, the rear is only worn out ~50% and only in the middle. The side knobs are pristine. The only thing that shows is the years of exposure to oxygen... I have already ordered new tires, tubes and rim bands for I don't want flats to ruin my enjoyment of the outdoors. The tire situation suggests that the bike was truly rarely used and not abused when ridden.

Brakes look pristine, too. I will flush the brake fluid just for peace of mind. I'll probably change the engine oil as well, although it looks really clear.

Cables seem to run smoothly although I may need to adjust the free play a bit. The air filter looks clean, haven't checked the fuel filter yet. The battery seems to be in good condition, but it has kick-start as well, so a dead battery isn't going to change much. And it does start with the first kick.

The rear wheel is missing one spoke. Not sure if I can buy just one. I hesitate to buy a whole set. A few are slightly loose, but I'll fix that when I have the wheels off the bike for tire change and balancing. That balancing rig I bought a few years back is coming in handy now :)

Chain and sprockets look good, only needed to adjust the chain slack a bit. The chain itself doesn't seem to be stretched.

I won't mess with the suspension until I go and try it.

Unless I'm missing something I think I got myself something in a really good shape. :mrgreen:
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